There is a lot that I like about Google Groups and if I was starting fresh, that's definitely what I'd go for. What bothered me over the BNTC use of the group "on line pharmacies" was the sheer number of people who got in touch saying that they were unable to join it, dozens of people. I've experimented with your group and it looks like they have a block on linking up with a Yahoo!Groups archive, so we could not go for the ideal solution, which would be to have Google Groups hosting and Yahoo!Groups continuing the archiving. So for the time being, I'll see if we can get any further with Yahoo!Groups and the possibility of transferring to them wholesale. If we can't, GoogleGroups might be the best option. I'm now on about my fifth email to Yahoo!Groups and we are still going around in circles, talking most of the time to borg who can only offer cut-and-paste answers. But I am an optimist and hope that in the end we might prevail.